SOPHIE'S STORY
Firstly I would just
like to thank you Michelle for giving myself and my family a voice. I feel very
honoured.
M. Thank you Sophie and welcome to Warrior Mums!
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Mum and Dad |
I was
born in Torpoint Plymouth on 25th November 1970.
My mum Sylvia born in Plymouth and my dad Felix, who was in the Navy, was born
in Trinidad and Tobago.
Although
my sister Natalie is two years older than me, I have always been the one to
stand up for her when she was bullied at school. She had a virus when she was a
baby that attacked the main nerve of her eye giving the impression it was a squint. Many operations were performed to correct
it but the last one went wrong and left her with a closed eye. Kids can
be so cruel.
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Natalie, Mum, Sophie and Dad |
We went
to Torpoint Primary school then, when I was nine, my dad left the Navy and we
moved into Plymouth and a new school. I had an awful scary teacher called Mrs
Poole. She used to pull us children off our chairs and throw things at us and
we were all terrified of her.
I never
really liked school but did my best and couldn't wait to leave.
My
first paid job was as a junior in an accountants office, where I was the
receptionist, typist, answered the switchboard, did the accounts invoicing etc,
in fact most jobs office work entailed, and I loved it. I continued with
various office jobs over the years and when I was 23 I met Roger, my soul mate,
my best friend, and my rock. We had only been going out for about 6 months when
I moved in with him. Today we are still living in same house.
Roger
and I got married on 14 February 1996. I was two months pregnant with my first
baby. I carried on working until I was 8 months pregnant and not long
after the company I worked for folded.
We have four lovely children.
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Lewis, Arron, Hayley and Chloe |
Lewis
Nathan Sleep was born on Sunday, September 15th 1996. My precious
little boy was born a quick frightening birth; he came out blue with the cord
was wrapped around his neck. The attending midwife was young and I could tell
she was scared so that made me worse, then the crash team arrived as my son was
not breathing. My dear Roger, bless him, was really scared too. I have never
screamed through fear like that and he was there for me holding my hand and
telling me everything was okay.
Hayley
Samantha Sleep was born at home on a hot sunny afternoon on May 10th
1998. It was so relaxing being at home in
my own surroundings, just Roger me and the midwife. Like Lewis, my precious
baby daughter was a quick birth, 2 hours and 45 minutes.
Arron
Matthew Sleep was also born at home on the morning of Saturday 22nd April 2000. An even quicker birth than my previous two! We
had one midwife in attendance and by the time another midwife turned up I had
had my precious little boy. Unfortunately the cord was also around my son’s
neck and it was a very scary time as the midwife was desperately trying to get
the broken oxygen mask sorted out. It seemed like forever but it wasn’t thank
goodness and Arron started to breathe on his own.
Chloe
Louise Sleep, another little precious daughter, was born at home on Thursday 25th
October 2001. Chloe was also a quick birth - an hour and a half in total.
Chloe’s birth was straight forward and at home another joyful experience, and
my last baby.
M. Would you please tell us about how your son, Lewis, was struck with Me.
Lewis
first became ill in July 2007 two months before his 11th birthday. He started
with an upset tummy and backache, temperature fatigue and generally feeling
really ill. One Friday night after returning home from a cricket club my dad
had taken him to. He became really poorly and wasn’t well the next day either.
He perked up on the Sunday, but then went down again, managed to play a few
cricket matches, but then just became far too unwell to do anything. As the
weeks and months went on he just became more and more unwell.
Sore throat, headaches, multiple aches and
pains joint, pain disabling fatigue, dizziness, pins and needles, numbness,
light and noise sensitivity hot and cold intolerance, nausea, post exertional
malaise, incredibly weak tired heavy
legs body, painful feet sweats, breathless pounding heart, the list just goes
on. Heartbreaking to watch your once healthy, care-free, happy go lucky child,
who was one of the fastest runners in school, who loved swimming and looked
forward to cricket, to not being able to do any of the activities. All the
walks we went on as a family stopped, swimming, running, cycling, cricket,
going on journeys everything was just too much. Unless you have a loved one
with this dreadful illness it’s hard for people to understand just how
debilitating and devastating it is. Our precious son who we love with our
everything - WHY HIM?
The primary school he
was at could not understand how ill Lewis really was, I used to get comments
like “Well he seemed fine yesterday” the school were not helpful and neither were
their comments. This for us as parents was extremely upsetting because we
could see how ill Lewis was, why couldn’t they? ME is evil it took over every
aspect of Lewis’s life. His schooling for the past seven years has been at home
because he’s been too ill to attend main stream school. He had two home tutors,
Sue and Roger Bunce. They were supplied through the Outreach Hospital School
and together with the Headmistress, Mrs Jones were very kind and understanding
during the two years they taught Lewis, from age 11-13. I used to collect home work from the Primary
school on a Friday (until Lewis’s school changed to the Secondary) and what
work Lewis could not manage with the tutors, I would sit and do with him when
he was able. I had to cancel a lot of lessons because he was just too unwell to
do them and the times he struggled though often left him exhausted and in pain.
M. Was it difficult looking after a sick child and at the same time trying to meet his formal educational requirements?
We had regular
meetings with officials at home, which were very stressful for all of us. The
schools were trying to pressure us into sending Lewis back to mainstream, but
my son was seriously ill, why did they not understand?
Unable to attend
Secondary school when it came to choosing his options for GCSE as they do it in
year 9, I was called in for a meeting. In order to study for these exams Lewis
would have to be on the school site for at least 25 hours per week and
as this was not possible the school had suggested that a better option would be
online lessons. I had already made enquiries
about online education and had contacted The Tymes Trust, a charity for
children and young people and their families with ME. Through my enquiries I
heard about Nisai Virtual Academy and spoke to a very helpful mother whose
child also suffered from ME and used this online teaching system.
The hospital school headmistress
met my suggestion of online schooling with enthusiasm and asked me to find out
whatever information I could. I called the Academy direct and Lewis and I had a
tour around the virtual classroom. Lewis was coming up to 13 then. We had to
get letters from our GP, the same GP whom I have had since I was a
child, while Lewis was on the waiting list to be seen by a Paediatrician, for
their records when he was in primary school which was a five minute walk down the
hill.
When Lewis was first
seen by a registrar at the age of 11, his last year of primary school, it was
mentioned that he was presenting with Chronic Fatigue. He was then seen by a
Consultant Paediatrician, a lady and mother herself, who did many blood tests, an
ultra sound on his tummy and an MRI to see if she could figure out what was
wrong with him. Then, about nine months
later, because Lewis's fatigue had continued and his symptoms which are used to make
the diagnosis, she diagnosed him as having Severe ME. After all this time the diagnosis was a relief, however, little did we know how much worse Lewis
would become or the heartache we would all be put through.
M. And then there was the suggestion of help and advice from an ME expert. Was that a positive experience?
At a consultation, it
was mentioned to us that there was an ME expert who may be able to help, so we
asked if she would be able to make a home visit as our son was too poorly to
travel. We so wanted to get our Lewis well again. A home visit was arranged and
ME expert came to our home. Lewis was given a
regime to follow known as the Traffic Light system, and after four days of
Lewis doing this Graded Exercise therapy he dramatically went downhill, to
where he was before but worse. He could not manage this anymore so had to stop.
We also attended Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services (CAMHS) as a family. The other therapy for ME is CBT (Cognitive
Behavioural Therapy). The therapists offered advice and after a couple of visits signed us off. It was obvious to them that we were doing all we could at home.
A week after our home visit from the ME expert we were due to go back to the Paediatrician. Roger could not get time off work so my mum came with me. She and my
dad were also very concerned as they could not believe how quickly Lewis had gone
downhill after seeing him only two weeks before. I stupidly did some research on
the ME expert after Lewis had seen her and took the information into the Paediatrician. Lewis told her how
much worse he felt and that he had to stop as did I and to how frightened we
were that he had relapsed so quickly. My mum then asked whether Lewis may be on a clinical trial. The Paediatrician hit the roof. She
really had a go at my mum and told her our written permission would be required to do that. I then asked her how she expected us to have faith in experts when they don't listen to parents when they say their children are worse after certain treatments. She did say that she could see it hadn’t helped Lewis and that we were right for him to have
stopped it. She also said she felt awful for getting the ME expert involved in the
first place and for Lewis to carry on as before, basically doing what he felt
he could do. The Paediatrician said she
would contact the ME expert and tell her that it had not helped Lewis and that
her services were no longer needed (not that we have ever seen any paperwork of
this).
Our relationship after this was
not the same. She helped with letters for school and DLA, but we know that
discussions were done behind our back with the Primary school and the Paediatrician because they were always suggesting Lewis should try more
hours or go in to school etc. when he wasn’t even coping with his present work load. They
did not see what happens to him when he tries to do more than he's able. He does not go out with his friends, they come to the house every now and
then. Walking is very hard due to how his ME
affects him and he has to be driven everywhere. He is not the same as his friends, they can stay up all night playing
on their game consoles or go to parties, walk, cycle, play football etc. Everything he should be able to do he can’t due to this evil illness. Lewis was
diagnosed as having Plantar factitious of his feet, policeman’s heel and
Raynaud hands and feet, also Bilateral forearm pain last year, so more to add to
his condition. We always have to plan ahead if we go out when he feels well
enough too. It is very difficult for Lewis as it is for us as a family watching
him struggle, our lives have changed to a different one, of accepting, being
realistic, and making the best of life as he is now in his
seventh year of having ME.
Lewis has for the
past 5 years been doing on line school with reduced hours he was studying
English and maths passed both with GCSE Equivalents doing 4 hours a week split
into half hour sessions, a huge achievement considering he is ill. Last year he did level 1 ITQ two hours on
line half hour sessions and he started Level 2 this September. I help Lewis when he needs me to from
spelling, proof reading, and talking and discussing ideas etc occasionally in the
past I have typed for him when he was too exhausted to. Along with other
help that Lewis needs for everyday living to cope with his ME. This for Lewis
is a huge struggle and does impact on his health but he has the
determination and drive and succeeds. We
are extremely proud of him.
M. You must have been so shocked when Arron presented the same symptoms as Lewis?
Arron, like Lewis, was a very happy go lucky little boy, he loved swimming,
riding his bike and his scooter, running, walking, all things that children of
his age enjoy. This all became too much for him and still is now. Arron became ill after a viral infection,
chesty cough, cold, temperature, runny nose, that he and his two sisters had in
September 2009. His sisters got over theirs within a week or so, but Arron’s
just continued on.
He became more and more unwell presenting similar and often the
same symptoms as Lewis. His chest and back were the most scary; he had terrible
stabbing pains in his chest and felt breathless dizziness/disorientation, pins
and needles and numbness. His whole body so very weak and like Lewis, unable to
sustain very much at all and both boys had streaming eyes.
Please we thought
don’t let this be happening to our Arron but we knew the longer he was ill that
something was not right. We hoped and hoped that Arron would just get
well. We asked the same Practice GP who
had seen Lewis, my GP, if Arron could be referred to the same Paediatrician due
to the fact that he was presenting similar to Lewis.
Arron was diagnosed at first as having Post
viral Fatigue by the Paediatrician, then, because his fatigue and symptoms
continued was then changed to Chronic Fatigue Syndrome which is also written as
CFS/ME or ME/CFS moderate to severe. This was so upsetting for Arron. For us,
having one son with ME was devastating but two? Our world just fell apart.
Arron became more and
more unwell, school became a big problem, he was not able to sustain even an
hour and in the end it just made him more unwell. Primary School were not happy about this and when Arron did go in, a teaching
assistant told him that he was okay and that he was just copying his brother! How
dare she? What gave her the right to say that to my son?
As with Lewis, Arron
was too unwell to go into school so a home tutor was set up through the
hospital school. Arron's tutor would come in for 2 -3 hours a week and he was so poorly, to poorly for lessons, but had to try and learn regardless. On one
occasion I went in to see his tutor and Arron had his head on the table and was
crying. The tutor did not even notice as she sat marking work that I had done
with him. It really upset me. His colour was terrible so he went and lay down on
the sofa and even though the tutor expected him to continue after his rest, he was unable
to. Arron was so poorly, I had to regularly phone and cancel out his home
tutor, he would get so stressed at the thought he had to sit and try and learn
when he felt too ill.
I would collect work
from the primary school on a Friday and return work that Arron had managed to
complete with me. The Hospital school where the tutors came from was going to
change its name and the lovely headmistress Mrs Jones, was going to retire,
before she did she set up for Lewis to do his on line learning through Nisai
Virtual Academy and for Arron’s hours to be cut from 3hrs to 2hrs as he could
not access them because he was too ill. Then two months later after everything
had been sorted out, another meeting was called with the deputy head of the
hospital school (stand in Head), as Mrs Jones had retired, I had to go down to
the school. I went alone as I thought it was just routine, because everything
had been put in place two months previous. How wrong was I? I went in and was totally on my own, I was bullied and
felt very intimidated by the way I was being spoken too. It was awful, the deputy head from the hospital
school was going on at me, telling me how Arron could go to what was a Pupil
Referral Unit (not for sick kids is for school refusers etc.) or to the hospital
school room, both would have involved travelling, having to get dressed and
using more energy that he was already lacking in this would also exacerbate his
ME, so why go there when his primary school was 5 minutes down the road? I was
told that Arron was socially isolated because he could not see his friends,
however, he was too ill to see friends, but we made sure that he did when he
could, the headmaster of the primary school was also pressuring me kept going
on about having a CAF meeting, one was not needed as we were coping, it seemed
hard for them to grasp this. Arron’s teacher from the primary school was also
present however said very little, but the home tutor upset me too, she had seen
how poorly Arron was, she just sat there and said nothing. I felt very hurt and
let down by the whole experience. I even phoned the hospital school to complain
about the Deputy Head of the hospital school who had come to the meeting but
there was no one to complain too as he was the acting head. I told him how upset he had made me and that
I found him intimidating, he apologised and said that was no his intention.
Once I had calmed
down from being so upset, I phoned and spoke to the tutor and got my point of
view across to her at how she had let us down, however she was welcome to come
back to tutor Arron. She apologised when she saw me about what had happened at
the meeting. She continued to see Arron even if it was only for 5 minutes, she
would then spend the rest of the time with me going through
work to make up her hour. She then worked with
Arron until he changed over to on-line school. She wrote a lovely end of school
year report about how well Arron had done even though he had been quite poorly
throughout the school year. Also mentioned was if it had not for been for my help, Arron
would not have done as well as he did and that my work made a significant
contribution to Arron's education. This was lovely of her to write and I
really appreciated her support.
M. And then to top it all you began to have concerns about your daughter. Can you share that with us?
From when Hayley was a baby she was always very clingy, then, when she started pre-school it took her
a long time to settle. Then when she started Primary school we had lots of
issues due to the fact that the teachers thought that Hayley was just shy. She would not speak and in class would nod her
head. This was a huge challenge for Hayley going to school everyday, she
suffered with constant tummy aches later diagnosed with IBS and was always anxious. It was awful trying to get her to go to school she would have terrible meltdowns, understandably. I knew as a Mum as did Dad that this was not just shyness, at home she was noisy where she felt
comfortable. Hayley always suffered with tonsillitis. She had to have both her tonsils
and adenoids removed, and always had glue ear. (A condition where the middle ear fills with a glue-like fluid instead of air causing dull hearing. An operation to clear the fluid and to insert grommets may be advised if glue ear persists.)
Hayley has had 6
grommet insertions since she was six. I pushed for her to
see the school nurse and because Roger and I were with Hayley and the nurse came
in after, Hayley spoke to the nurse but in a very quiet voice. The school nurse said
that if we were worried to get her referred to Speech and Language, which we
did. In 2005 at the age of 7
Hayley was
eventually diagnosed with Selective Mutism, which is a a
complex childhood anxiety disorder characterised by a child's inability to
speak and communicate effectively in select social settings, such as school.
These children are able to speak and communicate in settings where they are
comfortable, secure, and relaxed. It is classed as a ‘Hidden Disability’ and is
very debilitating.
Hayley found school extremely difficult. The teachers did not
understand and instead of showing sensitivity and support, kept spotlighting
her in front of all the class to answer questions. I had to keep speaking to
these teachers who thought Hayley was being
defiant. Speech and language became involved but still particular teachers
thought they knew best, then, at a later date I got a GP to refer Hayley to CAMHS
for help for Hayley, and for the school to approach with a more supportive attitude.
So as you can imagine we had many battles including with the Ed psychologist,
who did not understand Hayley’s condition either.
We never wanted any of these conflicts. We were trying to help our
daughter. Then we had some issues at her
Secondary school, same sort of problems, and we fought as parents to get Hayley
a Statement of Special Needs and the SENCO, after a while, did start to
understand Hayley’s condition a bit.
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Hayley today |
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And this is the lovely Chloe |
The reason I have discussed Hayley in this story, which is essentially about my sons ME, is because of what happened to us
in 2011.
At Lewis and Arron’s Clinic check
up with their Paediatrician, I had asked her for help
with DLA for Lewis. She agreed to help as she could not
understand how one brother could get it but not the other. Lewis by this time had been doing his online
school from the September of 2010 and it was going well for him. The
great thing about this online school is that it is recorded so if too poorly to
go to the live lesson, or ill during, they can catch up when they feel more able. All this in the
comfort of their own home. The Paediatrician had commented and wondered if Arron
could perhaps do the same online school, I had said yes he could but would need
her to help with this, as I had already enquired about it, because Arron was
due to start secondary school in the September of 2011 and the work to keep up
with for me to try and teach him especially maths, I would not of been able to
do. There was talk that the Hospital school may not be having home tutors
anymore. Both Lewis and Arron were asked about whether they wanted to talk to
someone CBT, (Cognitive Behaviour Therapy) both declined. I did say that if either
of them wanted to then we would support them 100%.
A few weeks later on receiving the clinic
summary in the post, I had to write back to her with inaccuracies, this was not the first
time either. The Paediatrician said that she would write to her colleague the
ME expert to see if there was anything she was missing for a sibling pair. She
told me to give her some evidence so she could put some information together
for Lewis’s DLA, so I copied the DLA from that I had filled in and passed it in
the same week, as Hayley had an appointment at the hospital. We took her some flowers and a card (as she
told us she was leaving for a new job at the end of April) to thank her for believing in us and for
looking after our sons.
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Arron and Lewis in light sensitivity glasses |
Concerned about the unfair DLA rules for children with ME being classed as normal, even though they are quite ill, I made an appointment for Roger and I to see Oliver Colvile MP to
discuss these issues. Roger and I saw my GP to ask for
support as I had been going back and forth with writing to DLA from the
previous year. It was all so much to deal with along with two sick boys and
looking after my girls. My GP said that he would support but that he could not
give me anything to help me being upset and that everything would work out. I
never asked for anything for myself, I didn’t need it, just wanted people to help with support for boys. Lewis
had to see an ATOS doctor at home, I had asked the paediatrician for advice to
which she never gave me any.
Mrs Sally Hamilton who was Oliver Colvile’s MP Senior Caseworker, was
fantastic as was he, she contacted me not long after we had been into see them
both, she asked if she could do anything to help. I told her that I had been trying to get hold
of the Paediatrician as she had said she would help with the DLA report that
was needed for Lewis so we would not have to go to Tribunal. With my permission Mrs Hamilton tried to
contact the paediatrician, but had the same problems as me for some reason,
messages were left by myself and Mrs Hamilton, we were told that she was on
emergency duty. When she did return the call the
paediatrician told Mrs Hamilton, how we could go about putting in a complaint
about her? Where did that come from, we did not want to put in a complaint, we
got our MP involved to help with DLA. I
then received the report for Lewis from the Paediatrician so I could send to
the DLA office. I took Lewis to see my GP at the end of January 2011 and a form
was given to him to fill in for Lewis to help with DLA too. He had asked how
Lewis was Lewis told him but had forgotten about pain he had in his shoulder,
he said it was alright when it hadn’t been, I had to put some inflammatory gel
on it, this was documented that I had suggested it too him.
On the 17 March 2011 I had a phone call from the Paediatrician, she had
said to me that she had had a phone call from the boy’s and my GP, he was
concerned that he could not help and wanted to know if anything could be done.
She went on to say to me that she was thinking of what she could do and
suggested that Lewis come into hospital for a few days so that she could do a
Video EEG Telemetry on Lewis to investigate his sleep, specifically to see If
his poor sleep was down to a sleep disorder or even possible seizures (he was
waking up at night because he was in pain and was having really bad sweats this
Lewis told her and me being his main carer) she said that seizures and sleep
disorders could cause fatigue and that these tests could not be done at
home. I was also
asked If I had laid it on thick in Lewis’s DLA form, to which I replied no I
haven’t and that you are told to put in the worse times which is what I did. She
mentioned about physiotherapy but because Lewis was so ill when he did this before,
naturally I was very concerned about this and told her so. I asked if Lewis could go in as a day case, to which she replied he could not and that it would be
too tiring for him. I told her so would being in hospital, if day cases at
least he could come home after.
Arron
had not done physio up until now, he was referred and when I spoke to a physio
she told me that there is very little they can do to help, if it did not help
Lewis and exacerbated his ME it maybe the same for Arron. She would leave the
option there if it was wanted. The Paediatrician knew about this because I had told her. The Paediatrician was very pushy with me and
asked me what I was worried about, I felt pressured, I told her that I would
need to speak to my husband and the boys she told me that I could stay with
Lewis I mentioned about Arron coming in also to try to get them assessed
together to which she agreed to, she also said that if we did not want to do
now then her colleague who was taking over from her could arrange. I spoke to the boys and they were really
upset they did not want to stay in hospital but they would go as day
cases. I spoke to Roger about it, we
felt we had no choice. So I phoned her back and told her that they were upset
about it but okay, she said she would pencil them in from the 28 – 31 March 2011
and that I would be contacted beforehand so I knew what time to bring them in. I also asked her what made her think that we
were going to put in a complaint about her, she said it was what the MP senior
caseworker Mrs Hamilton had insinuated that she was not doing enough to help, I
told her this was not the case and that we did not want to put in a complaint
about the Paediatrician and she replied to me well I didn’t think you would,
she seems the type of person who will walk over and say whatever she wants to
get her own way! This from a professional.
The boys became really upset about the prospect of having to stay in
hospital. Roger would have had to take time off work so he could look after the
girls. After much discussion we decided as a family that that the boys would be
happier going in as day cases and open to some form of gentle physio. I emailed
the Paediatrician informing her of our decision and the reasons why. We wanted
the best for our sons and we wanted to work with the Paediatrician. I sent the
email on 21st March. I left phone messages as I wanted to make sure that she
had seen the email. I had a phone call
from her secretary telling me that she didn’t want me to worry and that she had
my message, however the Paediatrician was on leave. I never did get a response
back until on the 30th March. I had a phone call from a sister on Woodcock ward
asking where Lewis was. I told her that I had sent an email and had tried to
contact her, but had heard nothing back from her. The sister said to leave it
with her. I never heard anymore.
I then had a letter from the Paediatrician dictated 29 March 2011 typed
on 31st March responding to my email. We did not receive this until the weekend.
In the letter she strongly suggests the way forward was to have Lewis in
hospital and she would facilitate Arron also.
The Paediatrician said she would arrange a meeting so we could discuss
face to face with her the pain nurse and a physiotherapist. On going to a GP
appointment with both boys, he asked them if they wanted to go into hospital as
had been suggested, they both said no they didn’t want to. He told me that he
had received a phone call from the Paediatrician, I said oh she said that you
phoned her, he then said that she wants to make sure that she isn’t missing
anything, and that it is unheard of to have had ME for 3 years and not to have
made some recovery. Of course this is not true. People can have ME for years, the
evidence is out there. So the seed of doubt was planted.
Unbeknown to us the Paediatrician had
written to Social Services in the February 2011, with concerns that there were
possible fabricated or induced illness and that she wanted the girls
to be assessed too, due to the fact that Hayley had selective mutism.
And that started the ball rolling.
Their first Strategy meeting was held on 7th
March. I had the phone call from the Paediatrician 10 days later with the suggestion
of the boys going into hospital. Their second
Strategy meeting was held 6 weeks later after all services had done their
chronologies of our family. On Friday
the 6th May we received a letter from Social Care to say that
they had been contacted by the Paediatrician to see if there was
some help that they could offer from a Holistic approach.
M. How did you feel about the Social Services being contacted?
I was so frightened. I contacted the Tymes
Trust, which is the longest established UK service for children and young people with ME and their families. I was given some advice personally from Jane Colby, Executive Director, and she got
all the professional referral team to speak to me. I was informed that they had many families contact them for the
same reason, because they had children with ME and were threatened by Social
Services.
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Lewis |
When the two social workers came it was so frightening. We had done
nothing wrong and were just the parents of two very sick boys. The conversation opened about a concern raised about whether the boys had had ME and had recovered and we
were just keeping them ill, or that they still had ME but that they were not
being pushed or encouraged enough. I said am I being accused of MSBP here and
asked if it was a Section 47 Child
Protection or a Section 17, to which I was told it was an initial assessment. I
asked if it could turn into a Section 47 and I was told it possibly could but not to worry
about it.
The social workers were doing their job and were mindful of us; they
were were kind and tried to alleviate our fears, but how could I not to worry
about it when I had just been accused of having MSBP?
The meeting
went on and Roger and I told them we wanted to work with the Paediatrician, but it seemed to be her way or no way. I gave them a copy of
the email that was sent to the Paediatrician about the boys being admitted to hospital as day patients. They had not seen this or been aware that I had made an alternative suggestion. Before they left they spoke with the boys alone.
Such a traumatic
experience for all of us. You try so hard to give your kids as decent a life as possible and to care for and protect them, and now our precious
kids were all scared they were going to be taken into care. (This could have
happened.) Lewis and Arron said it was their fault for being ill. How sad was that?
We'd had no idea we were under investigation. All the schools knew. They had all been talking badly about me because of the issues we had had over our daughter. Two boys with severe ME and a daughter with Selective Mustism - how could that be? And now the powers that be were wondering what kind of Mother was I? A loving and caring one, that's what!
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M. At this stage you must have been wondering who you could trust?
I went with my mum to see my GP to ask for his support and to discuss our concerns. I told him that we were not refusing the boys going into hospital we just wanted them to go in as day cases. He said he could not go up against the Paediatrician and told me
that it would go down the child protection route then. I was really upset.
After the first meeting with Social workers they
asked if they could come back for a Core Assessment to which we agreed. Then, a couple of weeks late when a social worker came back to see us we asked if she
wanted to see the boys, but she said no, they are fine leave them where they are. Then to our relief she said there was nothing to worry about, that they
have found research that states differently to what they were told there and was no
Child Protection whatsoever. I told them it was all because the Paediatrician had left out important information when she had initially contacted them, leaving Social Services no choice but to investigate us. How could she be so cruel and how could the schools follow like
sheep?
We had our Oliver Colvile MP and his Senior Caseworker involved with
helping us with this. Mrs Hamilton came
to the first new Paediatrician meeting with us and supported us, she was just
wonderful, and without her support I don’t know what we would have done without
her. A senior caseworker for Oliver Colvile MP to be proud of, he has also been
wonderful in supporting our family. The
boys were both re diagnosed with ME and then we were signed off from Social
Services. The day after seeing the new
Paediatrician I contacted my GP as I was told that I could get hold of a copy
of the letter that the old paediatrician had written to the new one. I went to pick it up, I was in such a state
after I had read it, Roger had to come home from work. When Chloe came home from school I tried to hide
how upset I was I had to run upstairs to be sick. I shut the door and then the
door opens and my little Chloe comes in and rubs my back. Brings tears to my eyes remembering she was
coming up to 10 years old then. My
health was affected greatly by all the emotional stress this caused, I had to
go to the doctors as I was getting out of breath, with squeezing sensations to
the side of my face, I had on seeing the doctor high blood pressure on the on
the second visit, this had come down. The reason I had this with the side of my
face, the blood pressure and breathing was due to the stress caused by what the Paediatrician had put myself and my family through. This GP I saw who had
always been very good with my children who was very good to me. He is at the same Practice and we all see him
now and not my old GP who is the Senior Partner there.
Too upsetting when I found out what he had written
about me, how could we as a family see him knowing what he had said and thought about me/us. I understand he has to safeguard children, just wish that he could
have spoken honestly to me about how he felt.
M. Did you take any action about being accused of fabricating your children's illness?
Once we were cleared then the hurt and the anger came. A complaint was
put in about the Paediatrician. She had told untruths, said
I stopped the boys from having CBT and that I would not go along with the
recommendations for ME, even though Lewis had done both GET graded exercise therapy that made him relapse. It was said that an appointment was made at the
hospital for Lewis to the Psychology Service and that I took umbrage to going
through our family history and would not take him. An untruth this was never
arranged. I was supposed to have
complained about a junior doctor, however, it was not a complaint, it was a civil
letter to say that Lewis and I were disappointed not to have seen her in
clinic, seeing how she knows Lewis. I
got a reply back. So many untruths told
and I have the paper work to back this up.
Both primary school and Secondary along with the hospital school and
even my own GP thought I was guilty. They all tarred me for being what I
thought was a good mum, the SENCO of the primary school had said that I had
suggested that Chloe had ME, I never suggested it I said that when she gets
poorly which she did a lot in 2010, we got scared about it. She also said that
I had a fallout with the Ed Psychologist, however she didn’t say as to what had
happened with our daughter. It was said by her that I refused a CAF meeting, I
never refused a CAF meeting I always said that one was not necessary as we were
coping, but if it was I would ask. It was also said that I was compliant whilst
people agreed with me, well if it’s not in the interest of my child then why
would any parent, it’s not about being compliant it was about getting the right
support for our daughter that she was not getting. The secondary school, well,
that was another one, I apparently took to teacher training for my daughter’s
teachers on her condition, Err no the Speech Therapist took the training not me. We worked together at the clinic on ideas however, I spoke at
the end to say how Hayley's selective mutism affected her. I fell out with the parent support adviser, so
it states, however I didn’t, she was lovely, also said how Hayley was persistently absent from school, however, did not add that my daughter was out of school for medical reasons. There were other comments made that were out of context too.
The hospital school was also terrible when we were going through Child
Protection investigation, they had always supported, with a fight the funding
for home tutors and for Lewis to do his on-line school. However, even when proved I had done nothing
wrong, still we had to fight with the help of our Senior caseworker Mrs
Hamilton and Oliver Colville MP to get the funding for Lewis again and then for
Arron so he could start the same on-line school. However, I was told that the hospital school
wanted the boys to have a home tutor also, they were just about coping as it
was that would have been too much for them and besides that we felt that this
was just to keep an eye on us. Roger had
told the other male deputy head about this (because I had been cleared), he was
so rude with Roger he said that by him saying that it was an insult to his
tutors, well what about the insults that were said about me? I contacted a
local solicitor, who was brilliant throughout and she gave me advice and would
have been there had we needed her. She also said that the reason they wanted
someone in the home was for the reason of keeping an eye on us, and that
legally we did not have to have them in our home, to which I told the new paediatrician and the hospital school. I also had to get educational legal advice from another firm of
solicitors as the LEA were holding off and failing in their care of duty by not
sorting out funding etc. All funding up until now has continued and I got the
boys both Statemented so as to protect their education and funding for Nisai.
Relationships with the school’s are better however, we still do not trust them.
My own GP said I was in danger of giving my boys a borderline
personality disorder, and that I genuinely believed my sons had this condition. They did! I didn’t diagnose them. He said how I brought my mum with me to
support my viewpoint, it wasn’t just mine. He said that he thinks I was well
meaning and had the children’s interests at heart, however he also thought that
I was unable to behave as a loving mother in any other way at the moment.
My GP upset me the most. I still can’t believe what
he said about me. He also said that the Paediatrician believes
that it is rare to find a cluster of family members who have ME and Selective
Mutisum. Do you see a pattern here?
Since receiving the Strategy minutes I can see
who said what. Roger and I had meetings with both schools and have written
apologies and one school actually contextualised and put the things that were
wrong right and sent a copy to the
Head of Social Services. These meetings were also very upsetting and
stressful for me but I am grateful for their apologies.
A couple of months after our ordeal, accompanied by our MP Senior Caseworker, we had meetings with the Head of Education
and the Head of Social Services. We needed
tell them how hurt and let down we felt by these services.
Letters were sent on
behalf of ourselves to Derriford Hospital about our complaint as questions were not
being answered. Our complaint has been through an investigation with the Parliamentary and Health Services Ombudsman. I had a lovely advocate who gave my letters a final check before I sent them off. With the information I had been able to gather since obtaining my notes, she could not understand why
my complaint had not been upheld. They all cover up when a doctor has done
wrong, even when they are given the proof. Three
years on and just as raw as the day it happened. I for one will never get over
being accused of keeping my precious boys sick. My family and I do not trust professionals
now, how can we after what we have been through?
Jane Colby, a former headteacher and Consultant for the education of children with ME and Executive Director of Tymes Trust says:
"There is no cure for ME (Myalgic
Encephalomyelitis). In its absence, management regimes are prescribed, typically based on cognitive
behavioural therapy (CBT) and graded exercise therapy (GET).
In the case of children this may involve the
application of Child Protection powers to enforce treatment. NICE confirms that patients may
withdraw from treatment without effects on future care, but parents who decline, or withdraw
children from, management regimes, which may have worsened their illness, can find themselves
facing investigation for child abuse or neglect, or have their child forcibly confined to a psychiatric
unit.
Tymes Trust has advised 121 families facing suspicion/investigation.
To date, none of these families has been found to be at fault. Subsuming ME
under the heterogeneous term Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS) has confounded
research and treatment and led to disbelief over its severity and chronicity.
As evidence points to persistent viral infection, recommendations have been
made to separate ME from CFS. International consensus criteria for ME emphasise
post-exertional deterioration as distinct from fatigue. If the child with ME
deteriorates under management regimes, re-diagnosis with a psychiatric condition can mask treatment
failure and lead to blame attaching to the parent. A more constructive
redeployment of resources away from Child Protection investigations into
appropriate practical support or these seriously unwell children, should be developed."
From the peer reviewed paper 'False Allegations of Child Abuse in Cases of Childhood Myalgic Encephalomeyelitis (ME) by Jane Colby
http://www.tymestrust.org/pdfs/falseallegations.pdf
M. You speak positively about the social workers and how they dealt with your family.
The head of Social Services supported us after we were cleared and
for this we are truly grateful. We do not blame them at all. However we do
blame the Paediatrician because she suggested I may be fabricating my
children's illness. Don’t get me wrong, I agree with Child protection, but not
the way it was used to abuse us as a family. Had she have worked with us this
would not have happened. The schools also had a heavy hand in this and made me
out to be someone I am not, just because I have always spoken up for my
children. We all have the emotional scars from this.
I would like to say thank you to:
Jane Colby for her selfless help and support when she is
also ill with ME and the lovely team at Tymes Trust for their invaluable
support. We as a family felt so passionately that Jane should get the
recognition that she so rightly deserves that I started the ball
rolling for Jane to be nominated for the Pride Of Essex Award for
helping not only my family but many many others.
Dr Nigel Speight who helped us tremendously. I put him in the Pride of Britain
Awards and got other parents to vote for him. He is Our family 'Hero'.
http://www.meassociation.org.uk/2013/06/dr-nigel-speight-writes-new-review-of-the-history-of-mecfs-its-clinical-signs-and-controversies-june-2013/
Dr Nigel Speight writes new review of the history of ME/CFS, its
clinical features and controversies | 3 June 2013
Oliver Colvile MP and Mrs Sally Hamilton who we call
our Guardian Angel and who went above and beyond the call of duty.
My dear Mum and Dad and my
sister who supported me through this horrific time. My mum for always being at
the end of the phone at any time, for helping me with wording when I wrote
letters, for being there to cry to and hug. I just love them all so much and
can't thank them enough.
My beloved Roger who helped
and supported, not only me but our beautiful family through such a traumatic
time. It has made our family and our love stronger and I love Roger and all my
precious children with my everything.
And last but not least to all my friends
for the love and support you have given us over the years.
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This #warriormums story has been the hardest for me to read, because of our connection Sophie, Of course, I knew much of the story before reading, but it was still hard to see how appallingly you'v been treated laid out in detail.
ReplyDeleteI'm hurt for you, tears were streaming as I read, I felt your fear, and I'm angry too, angry that proffessionals have such power (especially as they so often assume wrongly)
You're so brave Sophie, I really don't know how I could have got through such a threat to my family, to my childrens security! :(
You're a wonderful mummy, don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise
God bless hun
Kimmie x
Aww Kimmie thank you so much xx You have become a very special friend to me as has Michelle, I am here in tears also Thank you for your lovely words. Going through it did make me question myself and no parent should ever be put through that or their precious children. I have found all this very overwhelming re-living it but thanks to Michelle hopefully other families will see.
ReplyDeleteLove and Hugs xxxx
Hi Sophie,
ReplyDeleteWell, I really don't know what to say to you. I can`t even find the words to say how shocked I am by your story, and how disgusted I am by the so-called professionals. You did everything right, and yet you were forced to suffer those horrendous accusations.
I think you are a truly amazing Mum, and I am sure your husband, and your children know how lucky they are to have you. And I can tell by your loving words that you feel so lucky to have them!
You are a wonderful family, and I really do hope that you are starting to recover from this ordeal (though I know you will never completely recover from it) and that your children are as well as possible.
I wish you all a bright and happy future :-)
With love from Jane xxx
Dear Jane, oh thank you for your lovely comments, mine and my families is just one story there are many of us out there that have and are being abused by the services that are supposed to be there to support our children and us. I am very lucky to have my wonderful husband Roger and our precious children they are my world. You are right no will never fully recover from our ordeal but have had some wonderful professional people support us through this. So not all bad. Love to you to Jane and thank you xxx
ReplyDeleteSophie and Roger
ReplyDeleteI know what you have been through but it is so hard reading it on paper. Your family are so lucky they have had you both fighting for them. You are the most loving family and so strong.
Mandy Xx
My dear friend Mand who has been there for me in my times of despair being such a great friend to me, has been really tough as you know and yes hard to read. I am lucky to have a loving family and friends like you that help me through xxxx
DeleteSOPH. Such an amazing family who have been through such tough times and despite many knock backs u have kept on fighting for the help and support ur beloved boys deserve. Lovely photos of u all and ur dear mum and dad :)
ReplyDeletekaren xx
My dear friend Karen you too have been their for me at my worst you are my dear friends and have helped me through. They deserve so much more then all the heartache we have been through. Like Mand says onwards and upwards. Yes lovely photos aren't they. My mum was in tears when she saw and was reading it xxxxx
DeleteWhat you have been through at the hands of those who are paid public money to help, is beyond disgusting, and the way you have dealt with all this worry,whilst caring, teaching, meetings, fighting all those professionals is truly amazing.
ReplyDeleteThe establishment will only give psychological help for ME, and all their research has been skewered to showing it is psychological, when it is not, as the only treatment the NHS has is psychological.
Clearly your family would if we had honest research be used to show the condition is genetic but the truth is irrelvant to these people they just enforce government policy.
The ME society have had lots of parents complain of threats, and actual care orders for then Munchhausen, now because of the doubts on this disorder they renamed it fabricated illness.
This paediatrician would have made at least 5,000, or more if went to court for expert evidence for a care order so there is big money for experts.
Care orders also silence complaints and can enforce education, medication etc.
Everyone closes ranks . See my lecture on you tube of what the poor Websters and Sally Clarke suffered on the skiwered evidence of PROF Meadows and history of cot deaths in her family ignored.
34,000 parents may have wrongly had their children adopted on his dodgy evidence of parental abuse on his cot death statistics and theories..
Thank God you had an MP behind you.
I have had ME now for over 14 years and got nowhere, and even the SS do not appear to want to use it to point to incapacity, to take Issy away, as it is generally accepted, purely because the gov want it,that way that it does not exist.
You have come through hard times and have beautiful children, But it is such a scandal that you have had to fight so hard and the authorities should be brought to account, but how ?
best wishes for the future
Finola Moss
Dear Finola thank you for your very kind words. What really strikes me is how we are all decent loving caring families who's children and us are being abused by the very services/professionals who should be there to support. I am sorry to hear you have ME like my son's, you know only too well what is on offer and are the only things ever offered CBT/GET. It is not a psychological illness any one who has ME or lives with a loved one knows that and the way we are all treated is disgraceful. It is heartbreaking to see how much life it sucks out of my sons, so debilitating and incapacitating and the way we are judged as parents is just terrible. So much ignorance and stigma still after all these years of ME being known about, instead of getting better it is getting far far worse. Our's is only one family there are many many more of us out there with children who have ME and young adults and not just in the UK who are going through Child Protection, with devastating consequences. I will look at your lecture in a bit. I can't get my head around all this what is wrong with these so called professionals? I remember hearing about these poor parents (mums) being falsely accused of cot deaths, how can they/we ever get over it? These professionals have the power to do whatever they want to us families and it is just so so wrong. Yes big money for all these professionals, and our kids and us are the ones that suffer from what they put us through, they are so easily led they don't think that we will ask for SS notes or medical notes so we can't see what went on, so they say whatever they want about us (me) and we are not there to defend ourselves. Doubts of this illness I only wish that my boys didn't have ME it is just heartbreaking as I said and we still live in fear, don't trust professionals anymore. That's no way to live is it? Your daughters are so beautiful and I am so sorry about the very real fear you have of Issy being taken away from you, how can they do this? have you anyone who can help you, and you being a solicitor it is pure madness.
DeleteYes all my children are beautiful inside and out thank you :) Yes very hard times and yes it is a scandal, unless you can prove physical harm no solicitor are interested, not a winnable case doesn't matter about the emotional scars it has left us with, they can't see that can they.
I do hope that your beautiful daughter Issy will be left with you her loving family where she belongs. Love Soph xxx
If I didn't mind my name being online, I would tell my story for this blog too. We are an autism family, and the state had secret child protection meetings held behind our backs (which is actually against the rules and potentially illegal, unless the referrer has very good reason to believe they or the children will suffer serious harm by being transparent about the referral), and so-called 'disability social services', who are ignorant of the conditions they purport to "support" telling outrageous lies and making false accusations against me. It was all started by a demented GP who was completely autism unaware and jumped to conclusions without any shred of reason to do so, and purely based on the fact that he decided I was "severely anxious" and because I was home-educating my children (and without bothering to check that I provided an LA-endorsed education). I had only gone to ask for a referral for my younger child to be assessed for autism. He accused me of being "obsessed" with getting the children diagnosed (they were both subsequently diagnosed) and I was being accused of potential emotional harm to my eldest child behind my back because I was reporting the distress she was suffering in school that she had subsequently restarted, child protection comments were made between professionals (yes, do get copies of yours and your children's health records and you will be amazed at the rubbish and lies they put about you). No professionals are interested in supporting autistic children, they fail to diagnose and by default start insinuating it's your parenting, leaving autistic children with high anxiety and difficulties without support. When you do get a diagnosis they ignore the fact that the autistic child has high anxiety and deem it par for the course so won't support them. Parents are having to pay privately for support the state should be providing. I had a disability SW tell me that my eldest child was not autistic because he didn't recognise the autism label the hospital gave her, the same SW told me my younger child didn't have a diagnosis of hypermobility - which was diagnosed by professionals in the same building that he was located. Parents have to fight for every single bit of what their child needs, whether it be statements, diagnoses, suitable school places. When I fought for those things, I was accused by SS of putting "barriers in the way" of my children restarting school. I put in a complaint about social services falsely accusing me and that's when they got worse. The GMC has tried hard to avoid investigating the GP who whipped up most of the ridiculous frenzy, where they were all gossiping together with Chinese whispers, whilst professional reports existed backing up what I had said about my eldest child being distressed over school, they preferred to character assassinate me. Everything I was sent copies of was full of incorrect facts and when you write back they don't correct anything, just say they will file your comments. So all the lies exist for posterity on records, ready for someone in future to pick up where they left off. When you complaint to statutory bodies, they say they cannot investigate individual cases and the ICO doesn't reply to emails. The waste of public money whilst they hold all these meetings over their false accusations is shocking.
ReplyDeleteThere is a pressure group about the PHSO's vast failings, so if you want to join it and get restitution for them not upholding your case contact Della via www.phsothefacts.com.
I am so sorry you too are going and have gone through such a distressing time, this is the trouble with GP's teachers, medical professionals it depends on what they think about conditions/illnesses, we are treated with contempt when we dare to question or ask for something that they feel is not necessary. It really is crazy that we are the ones who love our children and fight to get them the support that they desperately need, so we can help them and for who ever teaches them etc, for them to have an understanding of how their condition/illness affects them, and then accuse us of abuse & neglect being over protective parents/parents, fabricating their illness and more. You me and everyone who fights for their children are all fantastic and role models. I know exactly what you mean about medical notes, important information missing, full of untruths, manipulation of information or to suit their cause.
DeleteYes a complete waste of precious resources, my complaint a complete and utter farce have had some wonderful professionals help here and there, had a so called Independent Review with PHSO, then I have evidence that proves actually not Independent at all, officer is told how to reword something by the person the complaint was about, work that one out! Thank you for sharing your story and so sorry that you are going through this too, what a fab parent you are though, always remember that :) it is them and not us! Thank you for the link I follow them on Twitter.
Take care of you all. Sophie xxx
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DeleteThis is what we need, somewhere we can gain and exchange information from each other.
I now know the help available for autism is worse than the condition. And is costing billions.
I have complained to Social Services, and still not near the 2nd stage of independent investigator.
If I ever get to any ombudsmen I’ll remember your campaign org.
Lets face it, there is no accountability for any of these ‘services’, and no intention to make them accountable, or indeed to help the disabled/ different, or their parents.
But they sure are determined to cash in on disability, particularly under the disgusting, illegal subvertion of ‘independent’ living.
And charities are financed by government, either directly, or indirectly through the schools and independent living facilities they own, so enforce their policies, and hoodwink, by pretending to be a voice for the beneficieries And their families. So we have no support except each other, and are logistically discouraged from exchanging even information
GPs, as I have shown if you read my post My Supposed Ilhealth on googling finolamoss are completely on message, and all agencies and government departments are just one huge cabal,
They decide what the truth is, and that is, whatever supports their control, so the family are always the enemy, and they then enforce whatever services they want to, through care / deprivation of liberty orders.
When Issy returned home fulltime, impacted and suffering PTSD repeating verbatim abuse from her NAS home workers I told the GP home visit she had been abused his ears pricked up and you could see he was just about to write it down and then when I said it was in state care he compeltely ignored me, this appears to be how GPs are trained ie not to take on the system, There can be no whistleblowers they lose their jobs.
This is precisely why removal to encagement on 16-18 is so terrifying as if parents make any criticism of care they are excluded. And there is deliberately no support for the autistic in the community or medically after 16, and then they are used literally as process fodder for the independent living industry once they are 18 till death.
families excluded if you do manage to get a deputyship under MCA from the court of protection it will be removed from you if you cricise their care as a recent CA case shows and as with child protection cases they are in secret you go to jail if you dare to ask for help and only know a little if they get to CA and can be published.
Please read my blog if you get the time by googling finolamoss and please feel free to email me finolamoss@gmail.com confidentially if there is anything I could help with.
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Dear Finola It is just horrendous I have just been reading your blog, these services are supposed to be there to support and help but instead cause more stress fear and your left knowing what is going to happen next. That must be so awful having people in your home, it is no longer your home your safe haven where you can relax so to speak. Poor Issy suffering from what she has been subjected too at the NAS home no wonder she is afraid to leave the house, she is in fear that she is going to be taken back. I wish I could help but I don't know how, have you a good MP? Thank you Finola for your email xx
DeleteLove Soph xxx
Dear Anonymous, I am appalled that a visit to your GP to have your child assessed turned into such a nightmare.
DeleteIgnorance, snap judgements, bruised egos and prejudice all played a part in the attack on your and your family.
What is not in the realm of understanding is not in the realm of possibilities. Shame on them all!
I hope one day when the time is right that you'll share all of your story with us and expose all those that have made your life Hell.
Thanks so much for stopping by and after all you have been through I hope you get some justice.
Take care.
Michelle xx
Sophie. Thanks so much for sharing your story. You're amazing; the lot of you.
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Aww thank you James that means a lot, I hope it will help raise awareness of what is happening to families who have loved ones with ME. You do a huge amount of the James and I for one am very greatful and I know many others are too:) x
ReplyDeleteSophie. Well done for getting through such a horrendous ordeal - your kids are lucky to have a mum who is willing to fight for them against the so-called "experts".
ReplyDeleteChrisB (ME 17 years and counting)
Aww thank you Chris very kind of you and sorry you have ME too geez has a lot to answer for along with these so-called "experts"
ReplyDeleteTake care of you. Sophie x
Forgot to mention something that might be useful.
ReplyDeleteIn 2007, the ME Society, successfully gained judicIal review of a decision by the NHS, to refer a parent to the LA for neglect ,because the parent had refused purely psychological help, as all you appear to have had for their child.
Had the ME society, not acted to quickly, in getting JR, the LA would have probably succeeded in getting a care order for neglect Check with ME SOC
hOPE YOU are all well and not still being hasstled by the SS
BW fINOLA
Thank goodness for the ME Society stepping in it really is just awful. Okay as can be, no hassles from SS this happened 3 years ago, still we all worry though only natural I guess.
DeleteSophs xx
Bless you all. What a tough journey
ReplyDeleteI just wanted to share what has helped for me. Cfs issues due to immune deficiency. 4 Years of meds etc etc. Now vegan. Deliciously ella recipes amazing. Symptoms so much better. Friend with MS following this eating plan..massive improvement.
Worth a look.
Take care
Yes has been a tough journey. Thank you for your comments and sharing what has helped you and your friend. Take care Sophie xx
ReplyDeleteWhat a horrific story...yes, the system stinks.....here on Long Island as well.........I applaud you for your strength in sharing your journey with everyone..May God bless you and Roger and your children....Linda Jannazzo(author) #autism xo
ReplyDeleteHi Linda thank you for your lovely words :) Yes the system sure does stink sorry it is the same for you in Long Island should never be like this. Take care Sophie xx
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